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Wednesday, May 31, 2006

"I have no response to that"

On a recent episode of "The Daily Show," Jon Stewart interviewed Ramesh Ponnuru, author of the book "The Party of Death: The Democrats, the Media, the Courts, and the Disregard for Human Life." I'm assuming the title is self-explanatory.

Stewart pointed out to him that he, and a lot of other people, would be more willing to listen to his arguments if Ponnuru at least became open to the idea that the government shouldn't be able to tell a woman what to do with her body, at least in the first trimester of a pregnancy.

Ponnuru responded that he doesn't believe it's right to take an innocent life for the well-being of an adult.

Stewart's response was, "well, isn't that how we justify the killing of civilians in Iraq?" Thousands of civilians have died, and we're all supposed to be okay with that because it's for our safety, and for the greater good of our country.

I have no response to that.

Do you?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are not purposefully killing civilians in Iraq. Our guys are dying on their behalf. The malignant system which causes so much self destruction has little to do with our benefit. GTB

Wednesday, May 31, 2006

Blogger Tracy said...

Important Fact was left out in this analogy. "We" are not killing civilians. It is the extremist muslim terrorists who are killing their own people. This does not logically compare to the abortion issue. Therefore, it is what I call a "smoke screen" to divert one's attention from the truth of the previous statement. I'm so tired of such inaccurate and deceiving propaganda and comparisons! Don't let it confuse you and remember the true facts. Blessings. :)

Thursday, June 01, 2006

Blogger girlfriday said...

Here is one rejoinder.

I would take Jon Stewart and his pals more seriously if they didn't believe in the systematic destruction of innocent human life, no matter the gestation period.

The burden to convince the world of their commitment to innocent human life is on them, not us.

Thursday, June 01, 2006

Blogger girlfriday said...

Here is the simplified version of another argument against Prince Stewart.

Invading Iraq was "just" based on the best intelligence the world had at the time. (I say world because so many nations had similar intelligence.) We didn't arbitrarily pick Iraq and start throwing bombs at it. I don't care what the nay-sayers say.

We've stayed there because we believe in finishing what we started.

I wonder how much head wagging there would be if there were no suicide bombers picking off innocent civilians.

Thursday, June 01, 2006

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Thursday, June 01, 2006

Blogger Lois E. Lane said...

I'm not sure what these statistics would be, but it might be interesting to compare 1) how many people were executed/murdered by Saddam's regime in the three years leading up to the war, 2) how many Iraqi civilians have died as a result of our soldiers' direct fire in the last three years, and 3) how many Iraqi civilians have died as a result of terrorist attcks within three years.

P.S. This "Daily Show" exchange also made me think. However, turning the question around would make Jon at an equal loss of words (i.e. "If you're so against the killing of innocent civilians in the Iraq war, how can you advocate the death of innocent fetuses on our own soil?"). It's all in how you spin it.

Friday, June 02, 2006

Anonymous Anonymous said...

" this remark has got me thinking..."

This is what good journalism should do. And when I realize you have stopped in your tracks to ponder a thing I stop and wait for you, and take up the thing myself. Such is friendship and trust.

Asking questions is a means to an end: finding answers. Modern gossips tend to forget this part; I have seen 'the question as anti-authority tool' overwhelming logic for four decades now. I post this because I sense the searching, the real quest, in your questions. It is a precious thing.

The protestor who referred to Iraq, who struck that nerve somehow - I think he made a poor appeal. A better device would have been this: What about our war policy in 1944-45 when we firebombed Dresden, Tokyo, and dozens of other cities? When, by deliberate policy, our Grandfathers' government visited hell upon citizens of enemy nations, that their sons might live and perhaps make it home? This breaks my heart...GTB

Saturday, June 03, 2006

Blogger Tracy said...

OH! I am so tired of the "U.S. was evil in how they ended WWII" mantra! Do you know how many times we warned the Japanes we were going to bomb them? Then after we bombed the first city (which was first - Hiroshima or Nagasaki?) they STILL refused to surrender!!! They attacked US and began the war without provocation for goodness sake - we had to find a way to end the war - we were fair, we gave warnings. It was more of our boys or them. Yes, this is a harsh reality, but such is the world we live in. Sure, I absolutely HATE war and I HATE that beatiful, innocent human beings created by God are killed. But this is NOT Utopia therefore I do not have the luxory of living with my head in the clouds and thinking that if I just chant "Peace, Love" the evil people in this world will just leave us alone. People who have such an attitude and look down on us who understand how the REAL world works absolutely drive me nuts! OK, I'm done preaching now. Excuse the outburt. :)

Sunday, June 04, 2006


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